Yeah, I was gonna mention COF, but several on here go off when they're mentioned--they think they're garbage. I think they're solid black metal for sure. Even if you don't like Dani Filth's vocals, some of the sounds they create as a band are dark and highly gothic, heavy as hell too. Of course, then again, COF has some of that British metal influence too, and it's a unique mix when it comes out in flashes of some of their songs.

As for being too old to listen--Greg Behrendt has taught us all, if you've watched his stand-up instead of his talk show, that you're never too old to rock, it's just to what extent you rock... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]